The Medjugorje Hoax
To demonstrate briefly by means of events and quotes that the apparitions at Medjugorje, because of their banality or lack of dignity, the containing of heresy in the messages, and their undermining of Church authority, are certainly false, and cannot have come from Our Lady and Heaven.
1) Banality or Lack of Dignity.
According to the "Treatise on Mystical Theology," by Fr. Farges (1923), "Whereas the divine vision always conforms to the gravity and majesty of heavenly things, diabolical figures will infallibly have something unworthy of God, something ridiculous, extravagant, disorderly, or unreasonable about them."
A) Thursday, June 25, 1981: "(The seer) Mirjana asked Our Lady to leave us a sign...and the hands of Mirjana's watch turned." (book of Fr. Yanko Bubalo, p.22-25)
B) Saturday, June 27, 1981: The seers stated that the Virgin had disappeared several times because people had trod on her veil. (Bubalo, p.29-32)
C) Aug. 2, 1981: That evening during the apparition, those present followed one another in order to touch "the veil, the head, the hand, the dress" of the apparition. "At the end the Virgin seemed dirty, full of stains." (Bubalo, p.73-74)
D) Sept. 4, 1981: Seer Vicka in her diary writes: "We questioned her (the Virgin) about the man who saw Jesus in the street, when he was driving in his car. He met a man who was all bloodstained - this man was Jesus - who gave him a bloodstained handkerchief, telling him (the driver) to throw it in the river. Going on his way, he met a lady - it was the Blessed Virgin Mary; she asked the driver for the bloodstained handkerchief. The man gave a handerchief belonging to himself, but the Virgin asked for the bloodstained one. 'If he had not given it to me, it would have been the last judgment for all.' The Virgin said that that (event) was true. (report of Bishop Zanic, 1990, in whose diocese of Mostar, the apparition took place.)
E) Autumn, 1981: Jakov asked the Virgin whether Dynamo, the soccer team from Zagreb, would win the title. This gave rise, during the apparition (in the supposed presence of Our Lady) to mad laughter on the part of the other seers. (Bubalo, p.154-157)
F) Sept. 8, 1981: Jakov shook hands with the Virgin. "Dear Holy Virgin, I wish you a happy birthday." ("The Virgin Mary is Appearing in Yugoslavia," by Fr. Marian Ljubic, p. 42)
G) August 5, 1985: Mirjana says that she has received from Heaven a white sheet on which the secrets will become legible in due time. But she won't show the sheet. (Report of Fr. Rene Laurentin)
H) "One day, as she (Mirjana) was waiting for the Virgin, she saw the light, and out of the light came the devil, disguised in the features and clothes of Mary, but he had a dark, hideous face...After a while, the Holy Virgin came and said to her: 'I am sorry about that...'" ("Yugoslavia and the BVM" by Tequi)
(...who is really appearing there?)
2) An Apparition Teaching Error and Heresy
A) Fr. Tomislav Vlasic: "Do you feel the Virgin as she who gives graces (which is the traditional Catholic doctrine of Mary, the Mediatrix of All Graces) or as she who prays to God? (true also, but in conformity with some Protestant theology and not the fulness of Catholic teaching.) Vicka: "As she who prays to God." ("Is the Virgin Mary Appearing at Medjugorje? by Fr. Rene Laurentin, 1984, p.135-136, 154)
B) The Virgin was accustomed to reciting the Our father with the seers. (But how could Our Lady say: "Forgive us our trespasses," since she has none? At Lourdes, Our Lady was careful to keep her lips closed during all the Paters and Aves, reciting only the Gloria Patris.)
C) Mirjana: "I recently asked the Virgin this question (whether many souls are damned), and she told me that nowadays most souls go to Purgatory." (book by Fr. Faricy, p. 64)
(...a comforting thought, perhaps, but opposite to the teaching of Fatima, St. Louis de Montfort, Pope Gregory the Great, St. Alphonsus, St. Anthony Claret, St. Augustine, etc., etc.)
D) Oct. 1, 1981: "All religions are equal before God," says the Virgin. (Chronological Corpus of Medjugorje, p. 317)
E) The Virgin: "I do not dispose of all graces...Jesus prefers that you address your petitions directly to him, rather than through an intermediary." (Chron. Corp. p.181, 277-278)
F) "In God there are no divisions or religions; it is you in the world who have created divisions." (Faricy, p.51)
G) "God directs all denominations as a king directs his subjects, through the medium of his ministers" ("The Apparitions at Medjugorje," by Fr. Svat Kraljevic, 1984, p.58)
H) "Each one's religion must be respected, and you must preserve yours for yourselves and for your children." (Kraljevic, p.68)
I) "The Virgin added: 'It is you who are divided on this earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, like the Catholics, are equal before my Son and before me, for you are all my children." (Fr. Ljubic, p.71)
(...unbaptized Muslims equal to the baptized, who by this fact are the adopted children of God?)
3) The Undermining of Church Authority
A) June 21, 1983: The Virgin states: "Tell the Father Bishop (Zanic) that I request his urgent conversion to the events of the Medjugorje parish...I am sending him the penultimate warning. If he is not converted, or will not be converted, my judgment as well as that of my Son Jesus will strike him." (Seer Ivanka writing to Bishop Zanic)
B) Dec. 26, 1983: ...But the Virgin takes the side of the chief propagandist for Medjugorje: "Our Lady prays for this work (i.e., the writings of Fr. Rene Laurentin.) May he who undertakes it do so in prayer, which is where he will find his inspiration." (Laurentin, p.105-111)
C) August 1, 1984: The Virgin says: "Make the priests read the Abbe Laurentin's book and spread it." (A Franciscan from Belgrade received this reply, when he had the seers bring up the matter to the Virgin.)
D) From August, 1984, to April, 1985, the apparitions continued to take place in the parish church despite the Bishop of Mostar's former prohibition. (A certain sign of a false apparition, when Church authority is disobeyed by the apparition itself.)
E) Jan. 1982: The Virgin states that two Franciscan priests, removed from their order and under suspension by the bishop, one of whom later fathered a child by a nun, may continue to say Mass and hear Confessions. Vicka the seer is asked "If the Lady said this, and the Pope says that they cannot..." Vicka answers: "The Pope can say what he wants. I'm telling it as it is." (from Bishop Zanic's document, 1990)
(...obedience to an apparition greater than obedience to the Pope?)
Miscellaneous:
Medjugorje ignores the great hope of Fatima: the consecration of Russia and its conversion, followed by peace, with the triumph of the Immaculate Heart.
Dec. 8, 1984: Fr. Gobbi, founder of the Marian Movement of Priests, receives a locution from "Mary," informing him that she has been appearing at Medjugorje.
Therefore, if Medjugorje is a fraud, so are Fr. Gobbi and his locutions.
Finally, Medjugorje has heavy overtones of Charismaticism, a movement which infiltrated the Church from Protestantism in the late 1960's; Medjugorje is still in progress, as of this writing (1999), its length resembling the nonsense apparitions of Bayside, NY, and Necedah, Wisc. rather than the succinctness of Fatima or Lourdes.
A reminder to all:
The official Church teaching concerning private revelation is explained by Pope Benedict XIV (18th century.):
"[The Church] simply permits them [private revelations] to be published for the instruction and the edification of the faithful. The assent to be given to them is not therefore an act of Catholic Faith but of human faith, based upon the fact that these revelations are probable and worthy of credence.
"St. John of the Cross asserts that the desire for revelations deprives faith of its purity, develops a dangerous curiosity that becomes a source of illusions, fills the mind with vain fancies, and often proves the want of humility, and of submission to Our Lord, Who, through His public revelation, has given all that is needed for salvation.
"We must suspect those apparitions that lack dignity or proper reserve, and above all, those that are ridiculous. This last charcteristic is a mark of human or diabolical machination."
source : http://www.geocities.com/cath_apolo/medjugo.html
The medjugorje Hoax article
The medjugorje Hoax article
"He who followeth Me, walketh not in darkness." sayeth the Lord
Problems with Medjugorje -strange visions
...the following is from an article (source listed below)
When I was studying philosophy and theology at Loyola University one of the main subjects upon which I concentrated was mystical theology. In fact, had I gone for a doctorate in theology it would have been within this field of study? Therefore, whenever there are reports of visions, locutions, stigmata and the like I am always interested in discovering their veracity and authenticity. I would consider myself well informed on this subject.
Because of this interest I have followed the events in Medjugorje since they began in 1981. These apparitions were taking place full force while I lived in Rome studying theology. I had several opportunities to go and visit Medjugorje. I opted to stay in Rome. I had heard too many things which disturbed me about these "apparitions" and began to have very severe doubts even back then in the early 80's.
4 Investigations
There have been 4 official investigations by the Church, 3 of which were official Commissions set up to investigate the alleged apparitions and claims of supernatural events at Medjugorje.
The first was set up and completed by Bishop Pavao Zanic who was the bishop of the diocese in which the village of Medjugorje is found. The findings of this bishop and his commission were both negative in regards to the events at Medjugorje. His commission found that the events at Medjugorje were not from God.
He discovered that during his personal investigation, 4 of the Visionaries had bold facedly lied to him and to others many times. Subsequent to his negative findings he has been accused of being a Communist sympathizer, at best, by those who wish to believe the "visionaries".
This is patently untrue. Bishop Zanic himself has suffered at the hands of the Communists. He would have suffered again at their hands but not for the sake of what he considered a sham.
The Franciscan priests in the parish at Medjugorje were very hostile to their legitimate superior, defying him at every turn. One of these priests has subsequently left the priesthood and has had a child from an
ex-Nun. I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that
these priests could have actually been Communist plants.
There was never a persecution of the children by the Communists. Notice how the Communists basically left Medjugorje alone. Why shouldn't they?
They have made a mint in revenues from all the tourists. Medjugorje
was quite a lucrative deal for the government before the war
since all tourist money went into government coffers.
Because the visionaries, parish priests and the people continued to refuse to obey their legitimate superior, 2 more commissions were established - one by the Yugoslavian National Conference of Catholic Bishops and another by the Vatican.
Both commissions found no evidence of the supernatural involved in the alleged apparitions despite the fact that they had years and years of gathered facts and supposed evidence.
The Croatian bishops and the Vatican came to the same conclusion as bishop Zanic. "...It cannot be affirmed that supernatural apparitions and revelations are occurring there."
In Fatima the commission that was established to investigate the apparitions gave a positive affirmation of their authenticity and they only had the evidence of 6 brief apparitions to investigate. Yet with nearly 10 years of "evidence" neither the Conference of Bishops nor the Vatican could come up with enough evidence to affirm the claims of the "visionaries" at Medjugorje.
Nor could they confirm that any real miracles of claimed healings had taken place according to the strict guidelines of the Church. Nonetheless, even after these negative results the "visionaries", parish priests and people continue to disobey their superiors.
This lack of obedience is my primary objection to the Medjugorje phenomenon. We have enough of that among those who claim to be Catholic but have denied essentials of the Faith. Now the objection I get from the "Medjugorites" to these commissions is that Lourdes and Fatima had Church opposition also but both were finally confirmed to be authentic.
Heroes the difference: When commissions were set up to investigate the events associated with Lourdes and Fatima they both ended with the same results which positively affirmed their authenticity. They didn't have commissions condemn the apparitions and then new ones affirm them.
The fact that the Medjugorje events have had three commissions and a total of 4 investigations with no positive results should be more than enough for any loyal Roman Catholic to reject these alleged apparitions out of hand.
Where is the sense of obedience among the adherents of the Medjugorje phenomenon? In fact, disobedience has been the constant undercurrent from the very beginning of these events. The father of disobedience must be very proud of his accomplishment.
" Even if an Angel of Light..."
According to the "visionaries" of Medjugorje the Blessed Virgin Mary has made several statements that are basically heretical. I will choose only one which has been repeated many times and in many different ways. It is reported by the visionaries that "Our Lady" said:" All religions are equal before God." This, dear reader, is heresy, pure and simple.
" Not without sorrow we have learned that another error, no less destructive, has taken possession of some parts of the Catholic world, and has taken up its abode in the souls of many Catholics who think that one should have good hope of the eternal salvation of all those who have never lived in the true Church of Christ.
...as is Our Apostolic duty, we wish your Episcopal solicitude and vigilance to be aroused, so that you will strive as much as you can to drive from the minds of men that impious and equally fatal opinion, namely, that the way of eternal salvation can be found in any religion whatsoever.
For, it must be held by faith (de fide) that outside the Apostolic Roman
Church, no one can be saved; that this is the only ark of salvation; that he who shall not have entered therein will perish in the flood...." (Pius IX, "Singular quadem" D1646-1647)
Since, therefore, the real Blessed Virgin would never commit such a heresy this is one of three things: It is a hoax perpetrated by the "visionaries" in collusion with the parish priests, or it is a hoax perpetrated by Satan, the father of lies, or finally, it is a mass hallucination with the suggestion able minds of the weak being influenced to see and believe things that are not really there.
Whatever the case, the bottom line is that the Mother of God cannot and would never proclaim anything contrary to the Faith. Because of this fact, priests and theologians who have swallowed the Medjugorje bait hook, line and sinker have scrambled to performed Olympian feats of mental gymnastics to try to explain away this blatant statement of heresy as if it came from the mouth of the Blessed Virgin but she really didn't understand what she was saying via the way the rest of the world would look at it.
How pathetic! These priests and "theologians" when hearing this statement, should have instantaneously proclaimed the whole thing a fraud but they've been bamboozled like all the rest of those poor deluded people that hunger for the supernatural in a Church that the modernists have so secularized and stripped of the supernatural that they will run after anything that gives them a sense of what they haven't been given through the Modernist religion.
The fact is that no matter how these theologians attempt to explain this statement to make it sound orthodox, they can't. Does anyone think for a minute that the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God and Mother of the Church would ever make a statement about the Faith that would be confusing and cause consternation to those who know the dogmas of the Faith? Please, let's be real!
To promote and believe in a mere private revelation after such damning evidence is beyond my comprehension. Let's face it. It's just not worth the trouble. As orthodox Roman Catholics, we have much more important matters with which to concern ourselves, such as the Modernist destruction of the Faith. What a perfect triumph Satan has in dividing those who are truly faithful over such a minor matter, and that is exactly what he has done. If nothing else the division this insignificant phenomena has created is enough to reject it if not to completely ignore it.
She goes on and on and on...
Now there are about a hundred more reasons that I could go into about the Medjugorje phenomenon and why I believe it is dangerous. However, I would like to concentrate on one last reason that indicates the supposed "apparitions" are not authentic.
When God became man in order to reveal to us who He was, He first spent 30 years in silence. When He was finally ready to complete His mission he went about teaching and performing miracles for a short 3 years. If you take the longest of the gospels (St.
Luke's) it is only approximately 33 pages in length. 80% of the gospel is narrative about the events surrounding the life of Christ. Only 20% contains the words that came forth from the mouth of God.
There are 3 most famous approved apparitions of the Blessed Virgin. When Our Lady of Guadalupe appeared to Juan Diego she came to ask for a chapel to be built in her honor so that God could use her intercession for the Mexican people in this special place. This took 4 apparitions and approximately 700 words.
Then came the dramatic proof required by the bishop. When Our Lady appeared to Bernadette at Lourdes there were 18 apparitions. She did not speak until the 3rd one. In all she spoke less than 100 words. She gave proof before the end of the visions that she had appeared to Bernadette by bringing forth from her hands the miraculous spring.
In Fatima the Blessed Mother appeared only 6 times. She spoke approximately 850 words. She proved her presence by the spectacular miracle of the sun. Each of the above authentic apparitions spoke only as a Catholic would, reiterating Catholic dogma.
Now contrast these authentic visions with the supposed apparitions at Medjugorje. To date there have been approximately 5295 reported apparitions with volumes of reported messages and still there is no end in sight. This "vision" speaks of such mundane subjects as the fashions the young "visionaries" wear.
Just think, according to what the "visionaries" have reported, "Our Lady" has decided to outdo her Son in quantity if not in quality. If you took all the recorded words that Our Lord ever spoke you couldn't even come close to what "His Mother" has supposedly spoken in the nearly 15 years she's been continuously repeating herself ad nauseam. And still there is no proof.
God's modus operandi is brevity. He says what needs to be said and leaves it at that. Mary has demonstrated this same trait in her authentic apparitions, and when opposed by the legitimate superiors of the visionaries she has always, almost immediately, provided the proof they have required. None of these things are present in the alleged "apparitions" of Medjugorje. If there is one fruit which seems to have come from this phenomena at Medjugorje it is disobedience.
Anthony Gonzales
source http://www.stjosephsmen.com/letters/medu.htm
When I was studying philosophy and theology at Loyola University one of the main subjects upon which I concentrated was mystical theology. In fact, had I gone for a doctorate in theology it would have been within this field of study? Therefore, whenever there are reports of visions, locutions, stigmata and the like I am always interested in discovering their veracity and authenticity. I would consider myself well informed on this subject.
Because of this interest I have followed the events in Medjugorje since they began in 1981. These apparitions were taking place full force while I lived in Rome studying theology. I had several opportunities to go and visit Medjugorje. I opted to stay in Rome. I had heard too many things which disturbed me about these "apparitions" and began to have very severe doubts even back then in the early 80's.
4 Investigations
There have been 4 official investigations by the Church, 3 of which were official Commissions set up to investigate the alleged apparitions and claims of supernatural events at Medjugorje.
The first was set up and completed by Bishop Pavao Zanic who was the bishop of the diocese in which the village of Medjugorje is found. The findings of this bishop and his commission were both negative in regards to the events at Medjugorje. His commission found that the events at Medjugorje were not from God.
He discovered that during his personal investigation, 4 of the Visionaries had bold facedly lied to him and to others many times. Subsequent to his negative findings he has been accused of being a Communist sympathizer, at best, by those who wish to believe the "visionaries".
This is patently untrue. Bishop Zanic himself has suffered at the hands of the Communists. He would have suffered again at their hands but not for the sake of what he considered a sham.
The Franciscan priests in the parish at Medjugorje were very hostile to their legitimate superior, defying him at every turn. One of these priests has subsequently left the priesthood and has had a child from an
ex-Nun. I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that
these priests could have actually been Communist plants.
There was never a persecution of the children by the Communists. Notice how the Communists basically left Medjugorje alone. Why shouldn't they?
They have made a mint in revenues from all the tourists. Medjugorje
was quite a lucrative deal for the government before the war
since all tourist money went into government coffers.
Because the visionaries, parish priests and the people continued to refuse to obey their legitimate superior, 2 more commissions were established - one by the Yugoslavian National Conference of Catholic Bishops and another by the Vatican.
Both commissions found no evidence of the supernatural involved in the alleged apparitions despite the fact that they had years and years of gathered facts and supposed evidence.
The Croatian bishops and the Vatican came to the same conclusion as bishop Zanic. "...It cannot be affirmed that supernatural apparitions and revelations are occurring there."
In Fatima the commission that was established to investigate the apparitions gave a positive affirmation of their authenticity and they only had the evidence of 6 brief apparitions to investigate. Yet with nearly 10 years of "evidence" neither the Conference of Bishops nor the Vatican could come up with enough evidence to affirm the claims of the "visionaries" at Medjugorje.
Nor could they confirm that any real miracles of claimed healings had taken place according to the strict guidelines of the Church. Nonetheless, even after these negative results the "visionaries", parish priests and people continue to disobey their superiors.
This lack of obedience is my primary objection to the Medjugorje phenomenon. We have enough of that among those who claim to be Catholic but have denied essentials of the Faith. Now the objection I get from the "Medjugorites" to these commissions is that Lourdes and Fatima had Church opposition also but both were finally confirmed to be authentic.
Heroes the difference: When commissions were set up to investigate the events associated with Lourdes and Fatima they both ended with the same results which positively affirmed their authenticity. They didn't have commissions condemn the apparitions and then new ones affirm them.
The fact that the Medjugorje events have had three commissions and a total of 4 investigations with no positive results should be more than enough for any loyal Roman Catholic to reject these alleged apparitions out of hand.
Where is the sense of obedience among the adherents of the Medjugorje phenomenon? In fact, disobedience has been the constant undercurrent from the very beginning of these events. The father of disobedience must be very proud of his accomplishment.
" Even if an Angel of Light..."
According to the "visionaries" of Medjugorje the Blessed Virgin Mary has made several statements that are basically heretical. I will choose only one which has been repeated many times and in many different ways. It is reported by the visionaries that "Our Lady" said:" All religions are equal before God." This, dear reader, is heresy, pure and simple.
" Not without sorrow we have learned that another error, no less destructive, has taken possession of some parts of the Catholic world, and has taken up its abode in the souls of many Catholics who think that one should have good hope of the eternal salvation of all those who have never lived in the true Church of Christ.
...as is Our Apostolic duty, we wish your Episcopal solicitude and vigilance to be aroused, so that you will strive as much as you can to drive from the minds of men that impious and equally fatal opinion, namely, that the way of eternal salvation can be found in any religion whatsoever.
For, it must be held by faith (de fide) that outside the Apostolic Roman
Church, no one can be saved; that this is the only ark of salvation; that he who shall not have entered therein will perish in the flood...." (Pius IX, "Singular quadem" D1646-1647)
Since, therefore, the real Blessed Virgin would never commit such a heresy this is one of three things: It is a hoax perpetrated by the "visionaries" in collusion with the parish priests, or it is a hoax perpetrated by Satan, the father of lies, or finally, it is a mass hallucination with the suggestion able minds of the weak being influenced to see and believe things that are not really there.
Whatever the case, the bottom line is that the Mother of God cannot and would never proclaim anything contrary to the Faith. Because of this fact, priests and theologians who have swallowed the Medjugorje bait hook, line and sinker have scrambled to performed Olympian feats of mental gymnastics to try to explain away this blatant statement of heresy as if it came from the mouth of the Blessed Virgin but she really didn't understand what she was saying via the way the rest of the world would look at it.
How pathetic! These priests and "theologians" when hearing this statement, should have instantaneously proclaimed the whole thing a fraud but they've been bamboozled like all the rest of those poor deluded people that hunger for the supernatural in a Church that the modernists have so secularized and stripped of the supernatural that they will run after anything that gives them a sense of what they haven't been given through the Modernist religion.
The fact is that no matter how these theologians attempt to explain this statement to make it sound orthodox, they can't. Does anyone think for a minute that the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God and Mother of the Church would ever make a statement about the Faith that would be confusing and cause consternation to those who know the dogmas of the Faith? Please, let's be real!
To promote and believe in a mere private revelation after such damning evidence is beyond my comprehension. Let's face it. It's just not worth the trouble. As orthodox Roman Catholics, we have much more important matters with which to concern ourselves, such as the Modernist destruction of the Faith. What a perfect triumph Satan has in dividing those who are truly faithful over such a minor matter, and that is exactly what he has done. If nothing else the division this insignificant phenomena has created is enough to reject it if not to completely ignore it.
She goes on and on and on...
Now there are about a hundred more reasons that I could go into about the Medjugorje phenomenon and why I believe it is dangerous. However, I would like to concentrate on one last reason that indicates the supposed "apparitions" are not authentic.
When God became man in order to reveal to us who He was, He first spent 30 years in silence. When He was finally ready to complete His mission he went about teaching and performing miracles for a short 3 years. If you take the longest of the gospels (St.
Luke's) it is only approximately 33 pages in length. 80% of the gospel is narrative about the events surrounding the life of Christ. Only 20% contains the words that came forth from the mouth of God.
There are 3 most famous approved apparitions of the Blessed Virgin. When Our Lady of Guadalupe appeared to Juan Diego she came to ask for a chapel to be built in her honor so that God could use her intercession for the Mexican people in this special place. This took 4 apparitions and approximately 700 words.
Then came the dramatic proof required by the bishop. When Our Lady appeared to Bernadette at Lourdes there were 18 apparitions. She did not speak until the 3rd one. In all she spoke less than 100 words. She gave proof before the end of the visions that she had appeared to Bernadette by bringing forth from her hands the miraculous spring.
In Fatima the Blessed Mother appeared only 6 times. She spoke approximately 850 words. She proved her presence by the spectacular miracle of the sun. Each of the above authentic apparitions spoke only as a Catholic would, reiterating Catholic dogma.
Now contrast these authentic visions with the supposed apparitions at Medjugorje. To date there have been approximately 5295 reported apparitions with volumes of reported messages and still there is no end in sight. This "vision" speaks of such mundane subjects as the fashions the young "visionaries" wear.
Just think, according to what the "visionaries" have reported, "Our Lady" has decided to outdo her Son in quantity if not in quality. If you took all the recorded words that Our Lord ever spoke you couldn't even come close to what "His Mother" has supposedly spoken in the nearly 15 years she's been continuously repeating herself ad nauseam. And still there is no proof.
God's modus operandi is brevity. He says what needs to be said and leaves it at that. Mary has demonstrated this same trait in her authentic apparitions, and when opposed by the legitimate superiors of the visionaries she has always, almost immediately, provided the proof they have required. None of these things are present in the alleged "apparitions" of Medjugorje. If there is one fruit which seems to have come from this phenomena at Medjugorje it is disobedience.
Anthony Gonzales
source http://www.stjosephsmen.com/letters/medu.htm
"He who followeth Me, walketh not in darkness." sayeth the Lord