Reset Saturday at the Vatican

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Reset Saturday at the Vatican

Post by Denise » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:26 pm

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Re: Reset Saturday at the Vatican

Post by MarieT » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:51 pm

interesting article - the Holy See is expressing its concern -
probably tired of "Rome did / Rome said..."

when it was all francis and his appointed DDF leader Cdl Fernandez instead....sadly looks like francis is backing away from his appointed prefect....how humiliating indeed
Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF), who has had the most bruising month in the recent history of Curial prefects. After his declaration Fiducia Supplicans provoked an unprecedented rejection from many parts of the Catholic world, he was forced to back down by Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo on behalf of the African bishops.

Pope Francis directed Cardinal Fernández to follow the lead of Cardinal Ambongo, serving in effect as stenographer to the evisceration of his own declaration. The Holy Father was monitoring Cardinal Fernández’s compliance over the phone. It must have been a humiliating experience.
After that, perhaps Cardinal Fernández desired something of a reset. That might be the reason for an official “Note” from the DDF, Gestis Verbisque, published on Saturday.


It’s a curious document, in that it teaches what has been known for literally centuries — namely, that the minister of a sacrament (usually a cleric) may not alter the essential “form” and “matter” of the sacraments. If either one is altered, the sacrament is invalid. Why, then, the document now? The document demonstrates that Cardinal Fernández is capable of three things put in doubt by Fiducia Supplicans.

First, that he can consult with his brother bishops, rather than ambushing them after working in secret, as was the case with Fiducia Supplicans.
there are other issues that we spoke about in earlier posts but suffice to focus on this alarming one
it states in a nutshell that Card. Fernandez did NOT consult, but "ambushe(d)" the bishops with the work (he was doing in secret).
Worse still, was he acting under the directions of francis (which has raised a lot of questionable concerns with decisions) ....and was this secrecy something that francis enforced?

recall the synod on synodality - francis called in the secrecy factor......those attending were not permitted to discuss happenings from the synod

leads one to question more ......so what are they going to do about it without causing a scandal
"He who followeth Me, walketh not in darkness." sayeth the Lord

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