Francis bans Latin Mass

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Francis bans Latin Mass

Post by MarieT » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:47 am

Unbelievable, francis.

First it was, we had to get permission from the Archbishop to celebrate the Latin mass.....it was given and the Latin Mass was celebrated every Wednesday evening in the Cathedral.

Now its a full ban on the Latin Mass in the Cathedral

The Melbourne Cathedral of St Patrick will celebrate its final Latin Mass tomorrow evening. The request by the Archbishop as head of the Melbourne diocese to celebrate the Latin Mass at the Cathedral has been refused by Francis - who sees it fit to interfere in another bishop's domain.

ie/ the authority of the Melbourne Archbishop has been denied as leader of his flock (we know all too well, as have others around the world)

While we recognise that Mass, according to the Missale Romanum of 1962, has been celebrated in the cathedral church for some time, we are nonetheless constrained to deny this request.

Opportune that the direction established by the Holy Father be followed with care in this particular case.

... It's about the stational Mass of the diocesan Bishop. This is described as the preeminent manifestation of the local church...when the Bishop is high priest of his flock celebrates the Eucharist, and particularly when he celebrates in the cathedral surrounded by his College of presbyters and by his ministers, and with the full active participation of all God's holy people.

Therefore it does not seem appropriate for the antecedent liturgy to be celebrated in the place that should serve as an example for the liturgical life of the entire diocese. The cathedral is the 1st place where the celebration of the liturgy must use the current liturgical books which form the unique expression of the Lex Orandi of the Roman Rite.

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Re: Francis bans Latin Mass

Post by Johnna » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:09 pm

I don't even know if this angers or saddens me more. But I am deeply upset and disturbed.
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Post by MarieT » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:22 pm

a solemn and magnificent mass indeed
I was blessed to be able to attend despite all the obstacles.

Fr Tattersall mentioned Cardinal Pell's efforts also......it was a blessing and the cathedral packed.
I have faith it will return when a new pontiff is elected

last Latin Mass at Melbourne Cathedral
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Re: Francis bans Latin Mass

Post by MarieT » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:20 am

Fr's homily
“Final” Mass in St Patrick’s Cathedral Melbourne—19th June 2024

Feast of Sts Gervase & Protase, Homily by Father Glen Tattersall

If you be reproached for the name of Christ, you shall be blessed: for that which is of the
honour, glory, and power of God, and that which is His Spirit, rests upon you.
In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

May it please Your Grace. Very Rev’d Monsignor, the Dean, Dear Fathers, dear
brethren,

Tonight my mind goes back to Saturday, 13th June, 1992, when I was present in this
Cathedral. On that day, at the request of a group of lay people, then Bishop George Pell, as
an auxiliary Bishop of Melbourne, celebrated the traditional Roman Rite (the Mass we are
celebrating tonight). It was the first traditional Mass celebrated by a Bishop in an Australian
Cathedral since 1970. From 1970 to 1985, the old Mass had been under a putative ban, until
the more enlightened and tolerant approach of John Paul II began to reverse this.
In his memorable sermon preached at that Mass in 1992, Bishop Pell acknowledged
the widespread interest in the Mass he was celebrating. ‘’’What is its significance?’ I have
been asked. It is significant, of course, primarily because it is an act of worship.” Unquote.
The Bishop went on to explain the relationship between the lex orandi and the lex credendi -
the law of praying and the law of believing, and of their foundation in Christ, that is
bequeathed to us in the Catholic & Apostolic Tradition. Bishop Pell continued:
“This is a precious inheritance; it is not ours to improve or to prune. It is the source
of faith and repentance, the source of everlasting renewal. To the extent that we depart from
this central tradition of worship and conversion, that we damage or pollute this core, we are weakened and
enfeebled. ‘Without me’, says Christ, you can do nothing.’”
Encouraged by the policies of Pope Benedict XVI, a group of lay faithful successfully
petitioned for a regular weekday Mass in the Cathedral, to be celebrated in the ancient form. This
began in August, 2011. It has been a source of many graces. Tonight, we give thanks for these.
This Mass honours Sts Gervase and Protase, twin brothers and martyrs of the second
century, who gave their lives for Christ in Milan. Their father Vitalis, a man of consular dignity,
suffered martyrdom at Ravenna under Nero, while their mother Valeria died for the Faith in
Milan. St Ambrose rediscovered the brothers’ bodies in 386. They rest now with him in the crypt
of St Ambrose’ Church in Milan. What a family! In human terms, we might see this as a waste,
or a disaster. Not so with the eyes of faith. As Tertullian reminds us, “the blood of martyrs is the
seed of the Church”. Over three centuries in ten distinct persecutions, Christians persevered –
often underground – until the time of freedom, a hard won freedom, was granted in God’s
Providence. Under the most adverse conditions, the foundations of Catholic civilisation were
forged, and a beautiful and complex union between faith and culture then blossomed through
centuries of development. The essence of this is bequeathed to us in the priceless pearl of the
historical form of the Mass. It has significance not only for Catholics, but for all who value our
civilisation.
In the epistle today, St Peter writes – somewhat mysteriously – “for the time is, that
judgment should begin at the House of God.” We all hope for God’s mercy, but we must know
that there is no escaping His judgment. The filial fear of God should free us from the servile fear
of men. That, together with the Holy Spirit’s gift of fortitude, gives us strength to bear witness
for Christ and the Faith in the face of every obstacle, and to come to the aid of our neighbour who
is oppressed or persecuted. The clear and consistent teachings of the Catholic Church in relation
to human dignity are founded on our understanding of creation, and of the Incarnation and
Redemption. For these teachings to bear fruit, Catholics themselves – and especially those
exercising pastoral authority – must be credible and consistent in their commitment to justice,
charity, and freedom in the Truth that sets us free!
I return with gratitude to the words of our late Cardinal Pell at that Mass in 1992, words
that seem tonight to be even more relevant and prescient than when they were first delivered from
this very spot:
“I cannot promise you a second spring. I can only promise you a hard slog. The external
pressures on us will remain formidable. I hope and pray that this Mass strengthens you for this
long struggle. The Tridentine Mass has many virtues; it is part of a noble tradition of worship.
Through prayers, ritual and music it attempts very explicitly to convey the beauty of holiness,
and especially through its decorum and dignity it helps to bring us to bow in worship before the
invisible God, the All-Holy One.”

The Introit tonight reminded us: “The Lord will speak peace unto His people.” That peace
no one shall take from us. The one condition for its untroubled possession is our forgiveness of
those who trespass against us. Our preparedness to pardon our enemies is not an optional extra,
but a core demand of our Faith. May it obtain their conversion, and draw us closer to the Lord,
the God Who is Hidden but also present in our very midst in the Holy Eucharist. Therefore, we
abide in hope, thanks to the assurance of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Gospel of this Mass:
“Blessed shall you be when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you and shall
reproach you and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
Be glad in that day and rejoice: for behold, your reward is great in heaven.”
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Re: Francis bans Latin Mass

Post by MarieT » Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:56 am

Our Priest was interviewed about the ban on latin mass.
Very well spoken - Francis wont like it but it has to be said

francis cannot ban the latin mass
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Re: Francis bans Latin Mass

Post by Denise » Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:37 am

Woah! Good for him! Is that your parish priest or a priest from the cathedral?
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Re: Francis bans Latin Mass

Post by MarieT » Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:11 pm

This is our parish priest for the Latin Mass which we have to travel quite a bit of distance for.

I also attend our local novus ordo mass - different parish priest though.

it was a good interview......but i'm wondering if repercussions if gets back to francis.....Fr Glen states that the Pope does not have the authority to remove the traditional mass.....he is acting beyond his powers as pope.....this is reminiscent of arch. Vigano's statements
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